fathermothergod

fathermothergod Lucia Ewing Had What Looked Like An All American Childhood She Lived With Her Mother, Father, Sister, And Brother In An Affluent Suburb Of Minneapolis, Where They Enjoyed Private Schools, Sleep Away Camps, A Country Club Membership, And Skiing Vacations Surrounded By A Tight Knit Extended Family, And Doted Upon By Her Parents, Lucia Had No Doubt She Was Loved And Cared For But When It Came To Accidents And Illnesses, Lucia S Parents Didn T Take Their Kids To The Doctor S Office They Prayed, And Called A Christian Science Practitioner Fathermothergod Is Lucia Greenhouse S Story About Growing Up In Christian Science, In A House Where You Could Not Be Sick, Because You Were Perfect Where No Medicine, Even Aspirin, Was Allowed As A Teenager, Her Visit To An Ophthalmologist Created A Family Crisis She Was A Sopho In College Before She Had Her First Annual Physical And In December , When Lucia And Her Siblings, By Then Young Adults, Discovered That Their Mother Was Sick, They Came Face To Face With The Reality That They Had Few If Any Options To Save Her Powerless As They Watched Their Mother S Agonizing Suffering, Lucia And Her Siblings Struggled With Their Own Grief, Anger, And Confusion, Facing Scrutiny From The Doctors To Whom Their Parents Finally Allowed Them To Turn, And Stinging Rebuke From Relatives Who Didn T Share Their Parents Religious Values In This Haunting, Beautifully Written Book, Lucia Pulls Back The Curtain On The Christian Science Faith And Chronicles Its Complicated Legacy For Her Family At Once An Essentially American Coming Of Age Story And A Glimpse Into The Practices Of A Religion Few Really Understand, Fathermothergod Is An Unflinching Exploration Of Personal Loss And The Boundaries Of Family And Faith

fathermothergod, my coming of age memoir about growing up in family informed and ultimately derailed by the little known American born faith called Christian Science, comes out in paperback on August 28th 2012 Available at your favorite independent bookstore, , Barnes Noble, TARGET, and as an e book.

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  • Paperback
  • 320 pages
  • fathermothergod
  • Lucia Greenhouse
  • English
  • 12 August 2018
  • 9780307720931

10 thoughts on “fathermothergod

  1. says:

    I have been waiting for some sustained quiet in order to write this review Now I have it, and I m feeling crushed by it In no uncertain terms, I want to first declare that this is a very good book, a 4 star read for the average memoir enthusiast It is a moving and sincere memoir of reconciling one s own beliefs with the ones you were raised with, and if that kind of book interests you, this should be at the top of your pile At the same time, it is a book about Christian Science, and if CS played any kind of role in your life I realize my audience just grew considerably smaller , hot buttons will be pressed and you will be faced with ideas and concepts you may have thought you d already dealt with, either solved or forgotten, and bravely walked beyond But a life dipped in CS infiltrates all the forgotten corners of your brain, only to surface at moments of crisis death, physical trauma, or when reading a CS memoir Please consider that many of my own buttons were toyed with here, and my 5 star review probably reflects my appreciation for Greenhouse s ability to verbalize my own conflicted emotions as a doubter in a community that disallows doubt I m also considering that there are several audiences who may choose to read this review, and I ve never been so hyper aware of my goodreads audience as I am right now There are of course, my usual list of goodreads friends, both real life and virtual, with whom I feel absolutely comfortable blabbing on about my reactions to books and how they intersect my own experience There are also Christian Scientists out there, some of whom may be seeking responses to this particular title, either because this book spoke to them illicitly and honestly about their own experience, or because they are seeking souls who have left the path, for either re conversion or examples of erroneous thinking to be used as illustrations in their own testimonials And the third audience I am forced to consider are the Christian Scientists who know me, the handful I still have spider web strands of connection to via facebook or alumni propaganda I attended 4 years of Principia Upper School and one at the college, and these people keep track of you, don t doubt it I m not ashamed that I no longer practice CS In fact, I think it was one of the wisest decisions of my life, but there remains a trace of betrayal failure guilt So CS memoirs don t get written very often Admittedly, it s a bit of a publishing risk, as CS does not have the allure of multiple wives like the Latter Day Saints or the romance of horse drawn buggies and flour sack dresses like the Amish Basically, the rest of the world either confuses them with Scientologists crazy in a whole different way or understands that CS refuses medication, i.e they let their children die of treatable causes, and that is good for a headline or two in the papers and maybe a memoir once a decade The memoirs that do get published are mostly how I got out of this religion In fact I can t think of one mainstream title that extols the virtues of CS, unless of course you include Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures, the holy grail of CS, and it s many, many, many publications, journals, pamphlets, lessons, and other authorized literature provided, published and sold through the Mother Church CS ers would argue that the SH and the KJV Bible are the only proof and validation you need, but back it up with authorized literature by Mary Baker Eddy and her protege, Mary Kimball Morgan, and read the weekly Sentinel for published testimonial reinforcement, and attend Wednesday meetings for testimonial reinforcement from your friends and neighbors, and read every day the selected passages from the Bible and it s relevant corresponding passages in the SH, using a CS Concordance for added clarity of some of those 6 words MBE is so fond of using, and listen to recorded lectures and hymns and folk singers hipping it up for your relaxation between reading sessions EVERY DAY, and it is clear that maintaining your beliefs take constant, unrelenting absorption in the tenants of CS, you won t have time to get sick, or get drunk, or take a smoke break OK, I didn t plan this review ahead of time, and it seems I m doing what I feared, ranting about the religion and not discussing the book But it s true, being in CS requires so many literacy skills I had, I m sure, one of the best English teachers in the country in high school, Mr Clark Biem Esche, who made me a reader and a thinker, and it s no stretch that his commitment to CS gave him the skills to teach analytical reading It s a conundrum I haven t yet figured out you have to be relatively educated to practice this religion, it is sooo meta, but that education frequently unearths the what I see as flaws of the belief system As in In 7th grade I was performing a science experiment for school I attended an Episcopal middle school, but went to a CS Sunday School at that time My experiment was to gather germs, living organisms, from household hotspots and grow them in petri dishes When I shared this with my Sunday School teacher, he refused to discuss my project, literally turned his back to me, and instead we talked about my classmate s project, which microwave popcorn pops the best I was confused Bacteria is life, microscopic but clearly there Aren t germs God s creatures, too Are we, as educated people, supposed to pretend they do not exist, because sometimes they make us sick or, in CS, APPEAR to make us sick No one would answer me Doubt number 1 is born Doubts number 5 and 6 came when I suffered a burst ear drum and untreated chicken pox while my housemoms at boarding school looked on and mumbled bible quotes And by untreated I mean, not even skin lotion I was given a milkshake once a day, and told it was my vanity that brought about the pox Doubts number 28 and 46 came when my CS grandmother died of untreated pancreatic cancer in her own bedroom and my grandfather nearly lost his life, or at least his gangrenous feet, to diabetes before my dad intervened with medical treatment Of course that s another conundrum, as my grandfather no longer practices CS, and is right now suffering in a nursing care facility, his life artificially extended through breathing treatments, insulin, a pace maker, antibiotics, and treatments for bedsores Doubt number 143 came when I wrote a private letter to my dearly loved English teacher, Mr Biem Esche, this man who I d been corresponding with for several years after graduation, and had built quite a level of trust and mentorship with, and I mentioned that I had been considering whether or not I might be a lesbian or bisexual After a scathing letter in which I was told I was a sinner and a leper, I never heard from him again Even when I saw him at my 10th reunion 10 years he refused to acknowledge me as I stood not five feet away I guess the hardest part about being a Christian Scientist is that believers refuse to acknowledge what they perceive as error , instead of acknowledging, assessing, and solving error Even if lesbianism was something to be ashamed of, to be classified as error , a Christian Scientist deals with it by ignoring it, turning their back, walking away If I can t see it, it doesn t exist That s what children believe, not educated adults Greenhouse experienced this too yes, I am going to talk about the book again and again When her father was confronted with an issue he had no answer for or an issue he couldn t heal , he ignored it or defensively argued to be left alone, leaving the true victim alone and suffering The Christian Scientist is so worried about being tainted by negative thought that the very negative thought he s trying to heal is made stronger by neglect Oh, it s fruitless to argue the religion in this context I ll try to stop But what I do mean to argue is that this book does a magnificent job of bringing up the questions that Christian Scientists don t like to be asked All the questions that boiled up inside of me in high school, but I never found the ability or opportunity to ask and actually expect an answer, they are asked here All the unanswered questions that eventually led to my overcompensation in the years of freedom after Prin drinking, smoking, sexual and illicit drug experimentation, and an inordinate fear of doctor s offices that I still can t shake, basically because that one old man turned his back to me when I asked such a simple little question.

  2. says:

    I always believed that every person was entitled to their own beliefs This book challenged this belief and ultimately forced me to alter it I now believe that each person is entitled to their own beliefs provided that those beliefs do not harm anyone else Had I lived this author s life, I don t know if I could have survived it I have nothing but respect for how difficult and painful it must have been to write this memoir I have deep admiration for the author s strength and courage I read this powerful, thought provoking book in a single day simply because I could not put it down Parts of the book made me so angry that I had to take a break and process my thoughts Other parts made me cry for the pain this family experienced Still others made me laugh out loud It is a rare book that can do all of those things and for good or ill, that kind of book is ALWAYS worth reading I received a free copy of this book through goodreads firstreads

  3. says:

    After reading a fair number of losing my religion memoirs, I picked up this book with lukewarm expectations I was pleasantly surprised when I discovered that, subject matter aside, Greenhouse s book kept me turning pages well into the night Her narrative begins a tad slowly, skipping through her childhood and adolescence with well written scenes of her own indoctrination Some readers will probably complain that she included too many doctrinal explanations, while others will wish for I m in the latter camp But I digress These scenes gave me a cursory introduction to the basic belief system of Christian Science, as well as an explanation for the logic however skewed that Greenhouse and her family will cling to when her mother falls ill Which is where the tension jumps and the reader can wave goodbye to an early bedtime What impressed me most is Greenhouse s ability to portray her family members as dynamic, empathetic characters who hold wildly opposite beliefs She tells a heartbreaking tale where are no clear cut villains, only good intentions, misunderstandings, and a belief system that is infuriating Best of all, she never tells readers what to think she lets us see and feel it from her perspective Highly recommended.

  4. says:

    This was a book I could not put down Like Kathryn whose review is before mine, I was raised in Christian Science We actually went to Sunday school together, but my mother was very like Greenhouse s father Although not a teacher, she had attended the classes and went each year to her Association I too wanted to hear about the religion and I did learn a few things, but I wanted to hear how my experience matched that of the writer Did we see things the same way Did she have the same fears My mother too died because she tried to treat herself with prayer and a practitioner But unfortunately her lack of medical knowledge led her to a decision that changed everything and was an extreme one, even for a Christian Scientist Surgery is best left to the surgeons, according to Mary Baker Eddy My mother needed structural surgery but she chose not to have it and when she did finally decide to, it was too late The part I find most interesting is how the stress and tension mount in Greenhouse as she tries to follow her parents wishes to not tell anyone while still coming to terms with the feelings she, now as a non Scientist, has with the depths of her mother s illness As the illness progresses, she becomes and frantic and the people who should help her are the people perpetuating the problem From first hand experience, I know how difficult it is to be in position of an adult child who has no say and who, understanding Christian Science better that people not raised around it, agree to let her wishes take precedent over your own And if and when she changes her mind you support that too.This book is extremely well written, with rising tension that matches that of a good novel while showing the kind of honesty and truth needed for a good memoir It is a very good read.

  5. says:

    Lemme get this straight The author went to a Christian Science Sunday School when she was a kid, then, in junior high or something, decided it was a load of crap, then refused to have anything to do with it I m sorry, but how does this differ from the experience of eleventy zillion other teenagers out there who ve rebelled against the religion of their upbringing The title, of course, hints at some rugged deprogramming regimen, maybe harrowing escape from the smothering clutches of some creepy cult But you won t find anything like that between the covers of this book Nope Turns out, the author decided to stop going to Sunday School when she was 15 That was her journey out of Christian Science LOL And someone gave her a book contract to write about THAT ROTFLMAO Whatever this girl s journey, it wasn t a journey out of Christian Science Evidently, it wasn t a journey out of whining, either.

  6. says:

    I was raised a Christian Scientist and am not a practicing Christian Scientist as an adult I was drawn to this book on many levels one of which was to compare notes between the author and myself It all came back to me I learned alot about the religion that I did not know I felt the author was honest, and upfront as to what went on during her childhood and early 20s as well as the years following her mother s death My mother also died from cancer, seeking medical assistance at the end I have no anymosity towards her or the religion My father was not a Christian Scientist My mother did the only thing she knew how to do and when it wasn t successful for her she turned to the medical community and it was too late This book was very well written and I commend the author for her courage to write it.

  7. says:

    I really enjoyed this book s perspective Unlike Jon Krakauer s book Under the Banner of Heaven , this book was written with the insight of somebody raised under a Christian Science roof.Part 1 the basic principles of CS and their culturePart 2 mom gets sick and the family tries to cope with her illness via CS, which amounts to only prayer and no acknowledging her illnessPart 3 fifteen years later, the author s life after CS and her dilemma about whether to publish her story or notI liked reading about this religion and though I don t necessarily understand it completely, at least I ve now been exposed to its inner workings I recommend

  8. says:

    There s much that s deeply pathetic about this book, and one s heart inevitably goes out to dysfunctional families in the face of death But the self centered and guilt ridden efforts of the chain smoking author to misrepresent Christian Science and its practice are at best dishonest and at worst patent muckraking for the purpose of making money and glorifying her own ego The choices made by her parents were theirs to make, although they ignored the CS practice of leaving surgery to the skillful fingers of a surgeon, utilizing pain killers, and seeking medical means if healing is not developing The author seems to have no knowledge of these options open to Christian Scientists.

  9. says:

    Lucia thank you so much for sharing your families experience with us Horrifying This tale of a family trapped by the spiritual ignorance, and theological evil, of a long dead witch doctor Mary Baker Eddy showed us the norms of cultic religious abuse YES, this crap is normal happens all the time go chat with some Mormons, Jehovah s Witnesses, or Charismatic lunaticseven Catholics Superstitious applications to what should be normal Biblical understandings of course atheists can be guilty of the same things just on the opposite end of the spectrum put all of their faith in Pharmaceuticals and untested science.The secret to life Question everything and follow the clues Thankfully Lucia questioned a FEW things and followed a clue or two Sadly it stopped there both of her parents died of what might have been put off for a few years Eventually Death gets us all though so Treasure those good memories Lucia seemed to do this when she could This story shows us that everyone is accountable for their own reckless decisions You still smoking lucia Hopefully your Pot smoking days are behind you as well I m still occasionally eating McDonald s french fries so I feel your struggles girl But we all grab onto something that we hope gives life value It seems that every character in FATHER MOTHER GOD had something to cling to It s sad when that thing eventually kills you though Anyway, on to the reason I read this book What s wrong with Christian Science Where to start There s hundreds of things that quickly present themselves And this is from a guy who s Fundamentally religious in the funnest way Like I said Follow the clues.I m surprised that Lucia and all of her family and friends never hit the Christian Science problem in a way that really hurts Theologically Here s how Why would any cult use the King James Version of the Bible as their source In this day and age Are people aware the word UNICORN is used 9 times in the K.J.V translation of the Bible This was fine in the 1800 s Even the dictionaries at the time said Unicorn An animal with one horn the monoceros this name is often applied to the rhinoceros Of course, nowadays it means a mythical Harry Potter horse like being with silver for blood and a somewhat useless horn protruding from its forehead unless you ve seen the movie Cabin In The Woods , horn comes in handy So any logical and rational scholar would leave the King James Bible back in the 1800 s where it belonged And hopefully move on to the R.S.V or A.S.V. Any church or group that insists the K.J.V is official is officially ignorant of the evolution of language Like I said Question everything _________________________________________Why the HELL would anyone listen to Mary Baker Eddy Do some basic research her life story shows how insane human and emotionally unstable she was She s not much different than all the charismatics running around now my son and I often joke about how easy it might be to find a million people to follow any ridiculous religious foolery The secret is to keep them from seriously reading the ENTIRE Bible Only give them a few abused and twisted verses at a time This works perfect for Mormons and J.W s as well and liberal s and Arminian s insist this is essential I m not even sure Mary Baker was smart enough to realize this but it s still working today No cult would tolerate someone carefully reading the whole Bible on their own HmmmI recall the Catholic church murdering a person or two hundred for distributing personal Bibles in a common language It does strike me as relevant that the 7th day adventists have their own personal Baker Eddy clone in the infamous Ellen G White Same crap different pilesmells the same, surrounded by flies best NOT to step in it Ellen G White November 26, 1827 July 16, 1915 New EnglandMary Baker Eddy July 16, 1821 December 3, 1910 New EnglandAnd just for fun Joseph Smith, Jr Mormon founder December 23, 1805 June 27, 1844 Western N.Y Fun stuff eh Must be something in the water.But back to Mary Baker One of my favorite sources for cultic info is Ruth A Tucker s book Another Gospel If only Lucia Greenhouse would have read this and saw all the common threads that run through Christian cults Here s some info that should stop any wannabe Christian Science culter Most of the time during the last years of her life, Mary was secluded from the public Rumors surfaced periodically that she was dead or dying, and during her last years she declined steadily, both mentally and physically Calvin Frye, who remained close to her to the very end, feared that she had become addicted to the morphine she was taking to relieve her pain Well, isn t that fascinating Seems Mary had some skeletons in her closet It is annoyingly common that every cult member I chat with Mormon, J.W., 7th Day, Catholic, Islam is desperately clueless about the blights of their founders All of these religious systems mention Jesus yet mostly ignore or abuse everything he said and taught So what s the Big Deal Because the world then goes Look at those Stupid Christians But as any first year Bible student would easily know none of those religions have Jesus as their founder and sustainer They are dependent on charismatic spiritualists to keep the people in fear and awe I wonder if Buddhist s and Hindu s have the same twisted and abused Holy Scripture issues that Biblical Christianity has In many ways YES But good luck saying their source comes from 4 Gospel accounts or reading all of their historical sources at all ____________________________But in many ways all of Lucia s past problems came from simply bad Biblical theology Basically people failing to read the Bible verses fully or carefully For instance How much sickness was in the Bible Lots How much got healed little hmmmm Even the K.J.V of the Bible has Jesus saying Matthew 9 12But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.Or the better understood E.S.V translation But when he heard it, he said, Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick This verse seems to say Get your sick butt to a Doctor Jesus orders So is Christian Science CHRISTIANITY at all Not according to any historical Biblical Christian understanding of the last 2000 years Mary proved this by stating the theory of three persons in one God suggest polytheism, rather than the one ever present I AM And just for clarity That God s wrath should be vented upon His beloved Son, is divinely unnatural Such a theory is man made and yet that is what the Bible clearly stats _______________________________________I honestly don t think mankind invents religions We are too busy with our Power, Sex, and Money issues It would take a supernatural force to go around encouraging humans to abuse and misunderstand basic Bible essentials Like Satan and demons perhaps Who else would care so little about humans get sick and dying just to prove a prideful point It s sad and common to hear the endless tales of what comes of people who latch onto false Christianity in the name of human rebelliousness and freedom.Lucia have you carefully read the whole Bible for yourself Question everything and follow the clues See what happens to a world that ignores God s Word We often see what happens when they distort it.Now if nobody distorted God s Word that would be interesting But that NEVER happens Clues indeed God has the best selling book on the planet for a reason.

  10. says:

    I received a proof copy of fathermothergod through a Goodreads giveaway While Lucia s story is compelling and the book is very well written I struggled with the subtitle Mrs Greenhouse describes in her book a relationship with both her parents and her faith that was contemptuous from seemingly a very young age I would say that this is of a story about re negotiating relationships with her parents than her faith While her relationship with her parents is steadfast but complicated and truthfully whose isn t her connections to the Christian Science faith traditions are wish washy To say that this book educates or informs one of the inner side of a mostly private but hardly cult like denomination is a bit of a stretch I was also annoyed at the the repeated apologies for what is without a doubt her individual perspective of course it is Stop apologizing and tell us the story.Overall I really enjoyed the fathermothergod and have already passed the book on to a friend I encourage future readers to expect less of the faith narrative I got immense fulfillment from the story of a growing woman who is constantly examining, reconsidering, and reshaping the loving and dynamic relationship with her family and think many others will as well.

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