Out Bad

Out Bad Out Bad Is A True Story About Motorcycle Outlaws And Modern American Police It Begins With The Painstakingly Assembled, Never Before Told Story Of The Murder Of A Mongols Motorcycle Club Member Named Manuel Vincent Hitman Martin Martin Was Shot Off His Motorcycle On The Glendale Freeway In Los Angeles About Am On October , Initial Reports Alleged That Martin Had Been Murdered By The Hells Angels And That He Died As Part Of An Ongoing, Furious Feud Between The Two Groups The Truth Behind The Murder Is Much Interesting And Disturbing Than That Martin Died On The Final Day Of A Three Year Long, Undercover Investigation Of The Mongols By The Bureau Of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms And Explosives The ATF Called It Operation Black Rain Both Black Rain, And The Federal Prosecution That Followed, Were So Cynically Unfair And Corrupt That Some Mongols Still Believe That Martin Was Actually Murdered By Government Agents Together, The Investigation And The Prosecution Probably Cost Million The Initial Press Coverage Of The Case Was Manipulated By The ATF News Of The Subsequent Legal Wrangling Was Virtually Non Existent Because The Department Of Justice Wanted To Keep The Case As Secret As Possible Out Bad, Draws On Numerous Public And Confidential Sources Including Numerous Sources Within The Mongols, The Hells Angels And The ATF To Accurately Reveal What Really Happened Out Bad Is A Startling Ride Down A Dark Road Nobody Yet Knows Here S Your Ticket Climb On There Ain T No Seatbelt

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  • 254 pages
  • Out Bad
  • Donald Charles Davis
  • English
  • 05 July 2017
  • 9781467950831

10 thoughts on “Out Bad

  1. says:

    A biased but fascinating account of the interaction between the ATF and the Mongols MC, told through the lens of examining the murder of an individual Mongol Davis is clearly sympathetic to the outlaws, but some of the logical points he raises cannot be denied The biggest despite spending hundreds of millions of dollars note the ATF has never actually revealed the sum spent, through extrapolation Davis estimates the cost of one at 150 million on several wide ranging undercover operations, most of the convictions secured against the Mongols were small potatoes Only three murder indictments were prosecuted and none of them were against a citizen all the deceased were outlaws or criminals of some kind.Another place where Davis is on firm ground is in the use of confidential informants a fancy term for a criminal who agrees to cooperate with law enforcement to avoid doing time to entice and entrap members of the Mongols into criminal acts indeed, in some cases said informants held superior positions in club hierarchy and ordered members of the club to commit illegal acts Acts for which said member was arrested None of the ATF informants were ever prosecuted for illegal acts they committed, which may or may not have included murder and rape.Davis asserts that while MC members do break the law, policemen do likewise in trying to stop themwhich in turn has caused the situation to degenerate into just another gang war Considering the opacity involved in these kinds of investigations the truth will likely never be known But considering other cases of police brutality and corruption we hear about every day, I do not find it unthinkable that the ATF broke laws in trying to catch lawbreakers Davis also takes the time to give several astute insights into the outlaw way, showing how most of the mythology surrounding them is a media generated fantasy both for the common citizen and the bikers themselves All around I recommend Out Bad to anyone interested in the subject.

  2. says:

    Interesting, Unique and One sided To be honest, I don t really know how to interpret Charles Davis OUT BAD as I wasn t sure whether the book was intended as a means of rallying the outlaw biker brethren, as an arm shot to law enforcement or to serve as a heads up to the rest of society My interpretation of the book is based on my civilian neither law enforcement nor rider perspective While I found the book to be quite interesting, passionate and well written, its words may ring hollow to those outside the biker realm.The movie Gimme Shelter introduced me to the outlaw biker world over 20 years ago as it viscerally displays one particular group the Hells Angels as an entity to either step gingerly around or avoid altogether Sure, it could have been edited to make the Angels look bad, but considering the stars of the movie the Rolling Stones appear pathetic at best, I felt it was a fair portrayal The movie spurred my interest enough to read books by Sonny Barger, William Queen, Hunter Thompson, George Wethern, John Hall, Arthur Veno and others The series Gangland was another source of information on the outlaw biker world for me as several episodes profiled the Big Five and other outlaw clubs Although no expert on the subject matter, I am smart enough to see that the black and white world each side law enforcement and outlaw biker wishes to convey to the general public also hides a great deal of gray that both sides surely wish to be kept secret in other words, both sides play by their own rules Charles Davis book tries to influence readers that the outlaw biker world is simply misunderstood due to a series of myths perpetrated by the real baddies federal law enforcement he even states the series Gangland as being a federal law enforcement tool Davis is convinced that the unlimited power granted to federal law enforcement to shut down the last frontier of freedom outlaw biker world also threatens the rest of society s ability to live freely.While OUT BAD leans heavily to the side of the misunderstood world of the outlaw biker, Davis actually does a good job outlining his case against questionable law enforcement tactics that are aimed at dismantling a society that he once was a part of This perspective seems to come specifically from the point of view of the Mongols Motorcycle Club, which Davis may have been associated with as a member at one time he is in the cover photo riding with a group of Mongols The ATF s successful infiltration of the Mongols and other clubs is clearly a sore spot for the author as he personally sets his sights on the ATF s John Ciccone and Operation Black Rain aimed specifically at dismantling the Mongols The author presents a logical case from the biker perspective, but his general argument is tainted somewhat by the undeniable misdeeds actions of the groups he defends most often at the expense of those who do not wish to be involved All the violence described in the book that centers around warring clubs and battles with law enforcement don t account for the civilian fodder comprised of those who were either in the wrong place at the wrong time or supposedly showed disrespect to the wrong person In other words, Davis provides enough documentation to demonize the outlaw biker world as much as he does law enforcement Although the victim card is hard to play amidst all the violence, Davis does his best to suggest that most of the perceived ills of 1% groups are due to unfair stereotyping it s the same argument used by most groups associated with a history of negative incidents Catholic priests, fraternities sororities, the military, professional athletes, rock bands, etc Unfortunately, 1%ers proudly broacast their desire to be non law biding outcasts with a FTW attitude hard to stereotype an image that has been intentionally cultivated for decades But, it s essentially up to the reader to determine whether or not Davis arguments are valid or not.I found the book to be informative and interesting, but obviously one sided While Davis illustrates his perspective with vigor and logic, the message may fall on deaf ears for many readers like me who believe those who choose to be involved in the back and forth game of lawbreakers vs lawmen get what they bargained for While Davis may believe the tactics the government uses to deal with outlaw clubs are unfair it should also be pointed out that many former and current outlaw bikers openly confess that a one on one fight against a club member usually results in that person fighting the entire club In fact, there is no shortage of former and current members celebrating their club s penchant for violence and lawlessness so the definition of fair is clearly subject to interpretation While OUT BAD failed to garner sympathy from me, it does give readers an alternate perspective to the ongoing war between bikers and law enforcement It is obvious that both sides lawbreakers and lawmen will use whatever tools and tactics necessary to get the upper hand in this roadrunner coyote saga I found OUT BAD adding balance to the overwhelming number of books that favor the law enforcement point of view a somewhat refreshing change of pace I would suggest reading OUT BAD in addition to William Queen s UNDER AND ALONE to better understand both sides of the issue.

  3. says:

    I give this book such high marks because I think it s important to read it to get an understanding of the direction Justice has taken in the U.S Davis, also known as The Aging Rebel , reports on the ATF s efforts to wipe out the so called outlaw motorcycle clubs He explains that the way Rico The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act is used to identify a group as a criminal enterprise could be turned against the Catholic Church or the Boy Scouts, not to mention a national political party, all it takes is for a couple of members to have predicate convictions and everyone in the organization could be implicated He also explains the move away from the prosecution of suspected crimes to the prosecution of possible crimes ATF indictments rarely go to trial because the prosecution makes the punishment so severe for a conviction in a jury trial that defendants succumb to the prosecution pressure to make a deal for lesser time, for which they must plead guilty to myriad charges, including confessing they were part of a criminal enterprise Besides being informative, Out Bad is a great read, I like Davis s style of writing He traces the history of motorcycle gangs and describes how they fit into the American narrative He details the way undercover cops work in organizations often as agents provocateur, going to extremes to get their subjects to commit crimes and the importance of paid confidential informants, criminals who are paid to commit crimes and are immune from prosecution in exchange for giving often unverified information to the police I couldn t put it down I did find a few errors At on point he refers to police as scared cows rather than sacred cows On page 137 he refers to another author s book as having a scene that has been blatantly prevented which I think should be blatantly invented On page 22 he offers a quote that implicates undercover agents in the murder of Hitman Martin without mentioning the source I offer them up so they can be corrected if there are future printings which I hope there will be if enough readers find his work.

  4. says:

    If you have any interest in outlaw motorcycle clubs this book is fascinating Most books about these clubs are either justify them in a self serving way or sensationalize their exploits in order to sell books.He captures the corners the Federal government will cut in order to publicly take these clubs down for the PR value As an American citizen you should be aware of the kind of abuse of power the ATF uses against convenient targets like these clubs and the way the individual members are often victimized out of proportion to the magnitude of their crimes.He also manages to capture the nature of these clubs as neither all good nor all evil, largely a big dysfunctional family seeking for honor and brotherhood, yet easily manipulated by both bad leaders and smart Federal agents.The author is just a great writer as well.

  5. says:

    Sorry to say but just to let all you people know who get there kicks off of bullshit Get a better hobby This book was based on pure news and publicized media Therefore anyone could have written this book My husband is a Mongol and we laughed through the whole book Knowing some truths not all, because he can t disclose most this book was just lies Not even worth my money The cover alone was posted by a Mongol member who posted his personal footage on you tube If I can recall it was the national run to San Diego So this so called author Aging Rebel Couldn t even get his personal photo What a joke

  6. says:

    An interesting addition to the modern biker book genre, Davies aka blogger aging rebel has written a book focused on the Mongols which ramps up into a full on attack against the team in the ATF that targeted the club, alleging essentially that the members were targeted and essentially framed by agents working to their own agenda For biker book reviews visit

  7. says:

    This is very important book, it clearly shows law enforcement agencies abuse of power in their attack on the Mongols MC As Benjamin Franklin said Those that give up some of their liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety Sadly this describes the path that has been laid out for us U.S.

  8. says:

    This book worked particularly well right after having read William Queen s Under and Alone It works basically as a response to that, since this book depicts the point of view of the MCs versus that of the ATF agent.The writing style and quality are not polished, it needs a proofreaded but it is a vital work on the modern era of the motorcycle club nevertheless.

  9. says:

    Through the read I ve rated this differently When it comes to critisizing law enforcement work ot is quite enlighting, and as that, a good counterpart in the outlaw biker book flora When it comes to editing and design layout I guess it was done by an illiterate 9 year old Sad to see

  10. says:

    Really quite good, an outlaw biker s assessment of the Great National Train Wreck in the 21st century I m guessing Davis does most of his own copy editing, which at times appears to be none In this case, that s not much of a problem, though the book never fails to communicate.

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